Karnak proves his worth in SECRET WARRIORS #5

With most of the Inhumans Royal Family off-planet and the Secret Warriors made up of predominantly young heroes, Karnak is an Inhuman out of place—not with his natural peer group, standing amongst the next generation of his people.

However, just because he might not fit in, does not mean he does not have a place with the Warriors. This August in SECRET WARRIORS #5 with the forces of Hydra bearing down on the team, the time has come for the Warriors to come together or perish. Writer Matthew Rosenberg took a break from the bunker to explore with us what qualities Karnak brings to the table that might recommend him.

AN EXPERIENCED TEAMMATE: “Karnak hasn’t been so much a teammate in the past as a member of the Royal family,” Rosenberg disagrees slightly. “He was a valued counsel to the king and queen, he also served at their behest and took orders. Now his role is different and some of those dynamics that he is used to with the royal family don’t quite work so well on a team.”

PRAGMATIC: “What seems pragmatic to Karnak may not be for you or I,” points out the writer. “He sees the world in a different way. He understands the flaw in all things and can see things no one else ever will. Expecting him to act sensibly by our definition is limiting. It’s like we’re playing a game of checkers and he is playing every game of chess ever played, all at once.”

DETECTING THE FLAWS IN TEAMMATES CAN LEAD TO IMPROVEMENT: “He can definitely see the flaws in all his teammates, but Karnak isn’t a life coach,” states Rosenberg. “He helps people when it is part of his plan and helps the situation. There may also be times when they’re flaws can be of use to him and he will exploit that just as much.”

DETECTING THE FLAWS IN ENEMIES CAN GIVE HIM AN ADVANTAGE: “He isn’t most powerful on the team at all, but he is probably the scariest to go up against,” the writer concurs. “Karnak’s ability to see the flaws in his enemies makes him a worthy adversary of almost anyone. And the smart villains know that and steer clear.”

TACTICIAN AND STRATEGIST: “Karnak is a brilliant tactician and planner,” agrees Rosenberng. “Often times he’s going to be following more of his own plans than anyone else’s, especially with the royal family gone. He is a bit of a missile without a target right now, a great weapon getting him to go exactly where anyone else wants might be impossible. Mostly one has to just hope your goals and Karnak’s goals align.”

A MARTIAL ARTS MASTER: “He is a person who has spent years attuning his mind and body to be the most efficient weapon against weakness,” recalls the writer. “Even if he couldn’t see every weakness of his opponents, he would be a fierce martial artist. But his physical and mental training, coupled with his ability to find and destroy other’s flaws, makes him as deadly with his hands as almost anyone on the planet.”

AN EXPERIENCED MENTOR: “He is brilliant, bold, driven, brutal, unforgiving, callous to the point of cruelty, and maybe a little psychotic,” Rosenberg explains. “To the right person he might be a good mentor. But I wouldn’t want him as mine.”

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Quake and Mr. Hyde face off in the heart of Secret Empire!

The Secret Warriors have faced a lot of big challenges since their inception as a loosely-knit team. From battling the X-Men to fighting Hydra, they’ve got a lot on their plates. And things get even trickier in the upcoming SECRET WARRIORS #4—due out July12—as Quake leads the team into a confrontation with her dad, the Hydra commander Mr. Hyde.

We chatted with writer Matthew Rosenberg about the top five reasons why a run-in with Hyde is Daisy’s worst nightmare.

Marvel.com: At this particular moment, given everything going on with Hydra in Secret Empire and Hyde’s role in it, we wouldn’t expect this encounter to go particularly smoothly, to say the least.

Matthew Rosenberg: Yeah, Hyde is scary to tangle with when the world isn’t falling apart and he isn’t your father. But yeah, Daisy is trying to end this takeover and Hyde getting in her way makes things very complicated.

Marvel.com: Daisy and Hyde have never had what we’d consider a super healthy father-daughter relationship. And that emotional tension will make this confrontation even more challenging.

Matthew Rosenberg: Totally. Daisy has spent a lot of time steering clear of Hyde. She doesn’t want him in her life, she doesn’t want to have to deal with him, and she doesn’t want to think about him. But Hyde has his own agenda and she can’t get away from it anymore. And deep down I think Daisy is afraid of learning that she is more like Hyde than she wants to believe.

Marvel.com: Daisy has pretty impressive powers of her own, and Hyde has gone up against characters like Thor—so who will win out?

Matthew Rosenberg: Hyde is definitely formidable. Daisy is powerful too, but at a certain point her powers go from being useful to just destructive. She is always toeing the line between super hero and natural disaster, and she can’t let Hyde push her too far. Luckily for her she has some friends with her. Or sorta friends. Regardless, all of the Secret Warriors vs. Hyde is probably a good brawl.

Marvel.com: We see some mistrust going on among the Warriors. Especially when it comes to Karnak, whom we’ve watched start to make his own plans for some reason. They don’t seem to feel as unified as they could, so it’s not really the best time to have to face someone like Hyde.

Matthew Rosenberg: No. It’s probably the worst time, actually. But that’s what this team is all about. Five people and a dinosaur who don’t necessarily see eye to eye or even get along that well. But they’re together because they need each other. They have always been reacting instead of acting, and that isn’t going to change anytime soon. So Hyde definitely gets the drop on them in terms of preparedness, but I trust Daisy and the Warriors will put up a good fight. Hopefully.

Marvel.com: Hyde spent some time in Pleasant Hill; that had to have messed with his head, and can only make matters more complicated.

Matthew Rosenberg: At a certain point you can only scramble an egg so much. Pleasant Hill [was] probably not good mentally for any of its residents, but Hyde was further gone than many. But his time there has given him some new insight and direction for sure. He is on Team Hydra more than he was before, but he is also thinking about a longer-term plan in ways he never was before. Basically, once people start messing with other people’s heads, don’t ever trust anyone.

Marvel.com: Would you like to tease or mention anything else?

Matthew Rosenberg: The next few issues of SECRET WARRIORS have more than a few fun cameos. Daisy vs. Hyde—the team vs. Hydra—is what people should come for, but I hope people are excited about some of the other folks who stop in to make our team’s lives more difficult.

SECRET WARRIORS #4 by Matthew Rosenberg and Javier Garron ships out on July 12!

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Reviewing the controversial new book from Sarah Dewey!

“The Life and Times of Wilson Fisk,” a heady tome of impressive writerly dexterity and ambition arrives in stores this week after what seems like months of think pieces and editorial pronouncements.

After devouring the undeniably propulsive prose, I find myself disinterested in all that ballyhoo and well-inked handwringing. Instead I am consumed with just one larger question:

Why?

This is a question that Ms. Dewey herself seems to be struggling with throughout the book. Does this biography, completed with apparently unprecedented access to the so-called Kingpin of Crime, exist to show us a different side of Fisk? Is it meant to argue against the myriad of convictions that Fisk has collected over the years? Is Dewey seeking to affirm all our fears about this skyscraper dwelling con and his ability to rule with his iron will?

While Dewey, a skilled journalist who, until now, has never seemed undone by a subject, remains unusually quiet on her book, the book’s editor Matthew Rosenberg has publicly been explaining the work to any and all who will listen:

“Wilson Fisk is an impressive man in terms of both his physical stature and what he has done with his life,” he argues convincingly. “Coming up from nothing, his sheer determination and his love for the city alone have made him an important figure in the future of New York. I think whether people love him or hate him, we can all agree his story is one that deserves to be told.”

Kingpin #5 cover by Jeff Dekal

And yet one cannot help but feel that Dewey had not been able to fully decide her perspective on Fisk during her time with him. Her able writing style is as strong as ever, but the book seems unable to tie itself to a central theme.

Despite all this, I heartily recommend the book. Ignore the moral scolds that say this is a sop to a monster or the cynics who say it is nothing more than a cash grab. Dewey’s is a unique work that shows the queasy seductive power of evil. She stared it in the face and survived to tell the tale, but she also came away obviously changed by Fisk’s influence. Her inability to come to a conclusion about The Kingpin does not reflect a failure of ability but rather the reality of darkness. It arrives not as demon spewing fire, but a friendly man who helps the homeless with one hand while crushing skulls with the other.

Judge for yourself when KINGPIN #5 arrives June 14 from Matthew Rosenberg and Ben Torres!

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Matthew Rosenberg makes the case for a change in Wilson Fisk!

Three issues in to the new KINGPIN series, Wilson Fisk seems to be nicer than ever.

Wait a sec, did you say nicer? Yes, I did.

The Kingpin has returned to New York City under the direction of writer Matthew Rosenberg and he’s determined to be fair and honest in all of his dealings this time around. But can we trust him? We spoke with Matthew who told us that Kingpin certainly deserves a fair shake and moreover, could be viewed as a super hero from a certain perspective.

One of the most violent characters in the Marvel Universe a noble super hero? Continue on to read the compelling case in favor of Fisk!

Marvel.com: Were three issues into Fisks solo series and all signs point to him genuinely wanting to turn over a new leaf. Why should we trust him all of the sudden, especially after his actions during Civil War II?

Matthew Rosenberg: How can you not trust that face? He’s just a sweet old businessman. But seriously, I don’t want to tell the reader who to trust and who not to trust here. Wilson Fisk has done a lot of bad things, and he is honest about that. He is a man asking for forgiveness, and that is a personal thing. I hope every reader, like the characters in the book, will weigh whether or not he deserves it. And maybe some won’t think he does. The story works in that case too, I hope. Fisk genuinely wants to accomplish big changes in his life and go down a different path. Personally, I hope he can.

Marvel.com: Youve go on record saying you wanted to portray Fisk as more of The Godfather than Scarface. What was the process like of separating the more volatile Kingpin weve seen and known before with the more patient and methodical one we see in this arc?

Matthew Rosenberg: The Kingpin who throws men out windows, zaps them with laser beams, or cuts their heads off with car doors is great. He is terrifying, and fun, and exciting. But he is a man who can only go so far in the world. Admittedly, it’s pretty far. But it’s not as far as he’d like and it’s not as far as I’d like. He’s a smart man though. He understands that if you leave bloody footprints everywhere you go there are a lot of places you won’t be allowed in. But the violent and impulsive Kingpin we all know and love, that’s his true nature. So it’s not so much that I am dismissing the man who beats people to death with his bare hands, but Wilson Fisk himself is doing whatever he can to suppress that man. And it’s a struggle for him on the page. There are a lot of people whose heads Fisk would love to remove, but he has bigger plans and eventually that gets in the way. But if movies have taught me anything, you can always trust a violent man to go back to his violent ways at some point.

Marvel.com: In the past hes used extortion, murder, and blackmail among other methods to achieve his ends. How hard is it for him to go straight after years of bending and breaking the law to his will?

Matthew Rosenberg: He has always used those tactics for sure. But he’s also run legitimate businesses as well. And he is nothing if not smart. Obviously hanging people out of windows gets things done faster than negotiating, but if Fisk is determined to walk the straight and narrow he knows how. It’s just a question of patience and the world not getting in his way too much. But the world has a way of doing that.

Marvel.com: Do you think were there times in the past when Wilson Fisk was simply misunderstood? Has he always just been misunderstood?

Matthew Rosenberg: Yes. 100%. If you look at Kingpin and who he is, where he comes from, he has all the makings of a great Marvel super hero. He is smart, determined, and exceptional. But he was always different and he had to face a lot of adversity. Now he has a love of his city, a strong desire to make it better, and a firm belief that he knows the right way to do that. It’s no different than Daredevil or Spider-Man. The only differences are that he kills people, but so does The Punisher, and he personally profits from what he does, but so does Iron Man. It’s all a question of scope. While Spider-Man and Daredevil spend a lot of time fighting in alleys, Kingpin wages his war across the whole city. He wants a better class of crime, less dangerous for the average person. He wants a generally safer city and he is willing to get his hands dirty to get there. And just because Spider-Man and Daredevil don’t agree with Kingpin’s tactics doesn’t mean they are right and he is wrong. It just means for years they have had people like [writers] Dan Slott and Charles Soule telling their side of the story, making them look good. And now Wilson Fisk has me.

Marvel.com: How do his nemeses, both heroic like Daredevil and criminal like opposing crime bosses, feel about his new outlook on getting ahead in life? What about his associates?

Matthew Rosenberg: I don’t think anybody likes it or particularly trusts it. But your nemeses aren’t supposed to believe in you.

Marvel.com: The art style by Ben Torres in this series has been described as heavy on the noir influences, a genre known for its morally ambiguous characters and machinations. Can you tell us how the noir-ish overtones factor into Fisks motivations over the course of this arc and its underlying themes?

Matthew Rosenberg: Yeah, for sure. First of all, Ben is amazing. His art speaks in a language I think both avid comic fans and casual readers will get. I see a lot of Frank Miller, Howard Chaykin, and Eduardo Risso in his work, and that just screams “noir” to me. But for folks not familiar with that stuff, I think the heavy shadows, the brooding characters, the worn look of the characters and world, they tell a story beyond the one I tell. As for the noir-ish elements of the story? For starters it’s not just about Fisk. Sarah Dewey, a down on her luck reporter, is one of the leads and this story is about their relationship. So Fisk’s operating in morally grey areas, his schemes, all of that plays a big part. But more than that it’s about how damaged people survive and what effect they have on each other. Nobody in this story comes out as the shiny hero, that’s not Fisk’s world. Everybody is a little broken and Fisk uses that to his advantage. Wilson Fisk is a dangerous man; a dangerous man to be enemies with and a dangerous man to be allies with. And he knows that. So watching him pull people into his circle, or watching them put themselves there, it has an ominous feeling. There are good things, but nothing good will stay.

Marvel.com: If you had to make a compelling case of why Kingpin should be given a fair shake in a sentence or two, what would you say?

Matthew Rosenberg: He’s a smart, passionate, and deeply flawed person, but he wants forgiveness. And there is no greater feeling than offering forgiveness to someone who wants to do right. Come forgive The Kingpin.

Judge for yourself in KINGPIN #3, available now, and issue #4, coming May 10!

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Matthew Rosenberg spills the secrets behind this new group of Inhumans!

As Captain America’s big secret comes to light in Secret Empire, heroes will rise to the occasion and team up to stop this infiltration from within. But with most of the Royal Family headed into outer space, a group of younger Inhumans—plus Karnak—must unite to battle the threat of Hydra!

Launching in May, SECRET WARRIORS by Matthew Rosenberg and Javier Garron brings together Ms. Marvel, Quake, Inferno, Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, and Karnak to stand against an old friend now revealed as foe. With the “secret” out, we spoke with Rosenberg about how this new team comes together.

Marvel.com: In Secret Empire, Captain America’s full agenda as a Hydra operative comes to light. How does this affect the Inhumans and give birth to this new team of Secret Warriors?

Matthew Rosenberg: Well, Hydra aren’t the most tolerant of organizations, and the Inhumans are known to be a little “different,” so that puts them at odds. And really that is the birth of our Secret Warriors. Many of them are the Inhumans who are a little outside traditional Inhuman culture. They don’t all get along with each other, and they don’t all agree on how to do things, but they are forced together because of their common enemy. And I think that’s a key point to this book: it’s not about Inhumans, or super heroes, or anything like that. It’s about putting aside differences and trying to help people.

Marvel.com: As the Inhumans/Terrigen Mist story has unfolded over the last few years, the Royal Family has been front and center in protecting their people, particularly those just discovering they are Inhuman. What happens when most of them aren’t around to serve as that shield?

Matthew Rosenberg: You end up with a lot of people, especially young people, who are stuck trying to find their way on their own. Which I love, personally. These are characters whose heroes have left; their mentors have left and their government has left. And the question becomes, “Who are they on their own?” Obviously Ms. Marvel, Moon Girl, and Quake are all heroes on their own terms, but this still has some profound effects on them. There are opportunities for some of our cast to be the next great leaders of Inhuman society, and there are opportunities for some to cut those ties entirely. This is going to be a lot of big choices our Warriors have to make before all of this is over.

Marvel.com: One Royal who is sticking around is Karnak. What role will he play in the book?

Matthew Rosenberg: Karnak is much older, arguably wiser, and definitely crazier than the rest of the team. He assumes a sort of mentor/adviser role as we go, but things are never that easy with Karnak. But he definitely is good at breaking things and that will come up.

Marvel.com: With Quake and Ms. Marvel you have two young heroes with dynamically opposite experiences thus far in their careers—one has spent most of her time in the shadows as a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent, while the other has fully embraced the traditional costumed hero role, with a fresh “we can all make the world a better place” attitude. How do each of them react to the Captain America news?

Matthew Rosenberg: It’s funny because those two, their different life experiences, are the heart of the book in some ways. The spy vs. the super hero. But Captain America means so much to both of them that it is a real hard blow. It is the kind of thing that can make you question everything you believe in and even yourself. And how they deal with it, what they want to do about it, that is the challenge. Quake is always going to be a destructive force by nature. It’s who she is. And Ms. Marvel is a hero above all else. So watching them have their worlds rattled is a big part of the fun.

Marvel.com: Javier Garron has some experience with the Inhumans, coming off of Inhumans vs. X-Men. What’s it been like working with him on this next chapter in that saga?

Matthew Rosenberg: It’s been amazing! This book is really tricky in a lot of ways. We have a big cast of very iconic looking characters. We have a lot of crazy action and just as much real personal quiet moments. And Javier is just killing all of them. His work is so gorgeous, his characters feel so real, and his pages are so dynamic. There is a fight scene in issue #1 that I thought was pretty neat when I wrote it. Looking at Javier’s art, I think it will be something people really lose their minds over. It isn’t like anything I have seen in a Marvel book in a while. I’ll just leave it at that.

But yeah, this book is 100 percent the Javier Garron art show at this point. I just want to give him the coolest stuff to draw. Luckily for me, sometimes that is Quake sitting alone on the D train and sometimes it’s a dinosaur chasing Hydra agents through a forest. He makes all of it next-level cool.

Marvel.com: Finally, thus far at Marvel you’ve been working mainly on solo books like ROCKET RACCOON and KINGPIN, but now you’re not only getting to tackle a team, but one that’s playing a pretty big role in a Marvel Universe-wide event. What’s it been like for you, taking on Secret Warriors?

Matthew Rosenberg: It’s a dream come true. I know that is as cliché and cheesy an answer as it gets, but there is literally nothing else on Earth I’d rather be doing. Working with these characters, a lot of whom are the legitimate next generation of Marvel heroes, and getting to build their relationships and add little bits to their lives—it’s been amazing. Having Moon Girl and Karnak be weird to each other? Getting to make Quake and Ms. Marvel square off against each other? Helping Inferno become a true badass in the Marvel Universe? It’s the kind of job you hope to get one day if you write comics long enough. I am not taking a second of this for granted. I genuinely love these characters and I really hope that comes through on every page we put out.

It’s all out in the open this May when Matthew Rosenberg and Javier Garron present SECRET WARRIORS!

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Matthew Rosenberg sends Wilson Fisk down memory lane!

Students of psychodynamic psychotherapy have long held that the solution to the problems of now lie in discovering the wounds of the past. For Wilson Fisk, that theory will be tested on March 8 in KINGPIN #2.

We spoke to the man sharping the #2 pencils for the exam, writer Matthew Rosenberg, about the importance of revisiting the past in preparation for the future.

Marvel.com: KINGPIN #2 is oriented around you beginning to explore Wilson Fisk’s past. As a writer, what is important about delving into this material? Creatively, how do you find it fulfilling?

Matthew Rosenberg: I think the true joy of working on Marvel Comics is that you get to rely so much on these amazing stories that came before you. We don’t have to keep telling origin stories. We don’t have to keep explaining certain aspects of the characters. It’s already been told way better than I ever could.

And for a character like Kingpin, who has been a favorite of mine since I first learned to read, I think it’s nice to go back and nod to that history. Kingpin is so rarely the lead that we really get a chance to explore who he is, who he was, and who he wants to be in a big way with this series. This is just a chance to spend a little more time with everyone’s favorite giant gangster.

Marvel.com: When the solicits promise to explore his past, how far back into Fisk’s life are you planning to go?

Matthew Rosenberg: Kingpin is trying to move forward in New York’s elite social circles. In order to do that, he has to confront some of his past. He wants to get out ahead of it. He wants to control the narrative on who he was and what he did.

In order to do that he is going to have to address some dirty deeds. But it’s filtered through his perspective. So we are going to revisit some dirty deeds throughout the series, but maybe not the way readers have [seen] them before. And pretty much anything is fair game. If he was old enough to remember doing it, it might come up.

Marvel.com: Without spoiling things, can you give readers an idea of where an exploration of Fisk’s past might take them on the globe? What kind of people—or recognizable characters—might he be encountering and interacting with?

Matthew Rosenberg: Well, we are staying in New York City for the most part.

Fisk has big plans and he wants to make sure NYC is at the heart of them all. But this book that is being written about him will dig up some dirt that he prefers would stay buried. Going forward Fisk is going to have to come face to face with people he’d rather be done with on both sides of his past: Tombstone, The Owl, Hammerhead, and maybe even a horned hero. And figuring out how to beat these demons from his past once and for all is the major driving force for Fisk now.

Kingpin #2

Kingpin #2

Marvel.com: How does Ben Torres’ art help realize the worlds that Wilson moved in and through in his past? How does it enhance you script from creating the atmosphere you are striving for?

Matthew Rosenberg: Ben is amazing. His art reminds me of the feeling I had when I first discovered Frank Miller, John Romita Jr., or Eduardo Risso. It is just so cool to look at that you lose yourself in the page.

But I think the key for making the book work is feeling the menace that isn’t necessarily in the dialogue or the action. Fisk, Daredevil, Tombstone—these men are barely contained violence walking around in fancy suits. So while Fisk plays nice with others, we need to know that there is always danger just below the surface. And I think Ben captures that perfectly. His Kingpin is scary even when he is eating cereal in the morning. And watching characters like Sarah, who feel real and human, get sucked up into that world is the real thrill.

Marvel.com: If you had to give fans one bit of information re: Wilson Fisk’s past you think would grab their attention immediately, what would it be?

Matthew Rosenberg: I think the one thing I would say is that Fisk is confronting his past so that he can move forward. This isn’t just a fun nostalgia trip for him. Where he is going and where he came from are very related. And if his plans work, if he can move forward, the whole Marvel universe is going to take notice.

Take a journey through the past of Wilson Fisk on March 8 with KINGPIN #2 by Matthew Rosenberg and Ben Torres!

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With the Guardians stranded on Earth, Rocket has a Hunter on his tail

In a universe full of monsters, talking animals, and spider people, only one villain stands bold enough to hunt them all down and showcase their hides like a badge of honor. On February 22, Kraven the Hunter stalks his latest prey in ROCKET RACCOON #3, written by Matthew Rosenberg with art by Jorge Coelho.

To help get all you novice hunters out there ready we asked Rosenberg to pass on a little of Kraven’s wisdom. For your convenience we’ve taken the liberty of putting it all together in a very special how-to guide:

-“First things first, raccoons are crafty little beasts so make sure you have secured a bag or cage capable of holding them. This is important because there is no honor is capturing your prey if you cannot showcase it to lesser hunters.”

-“Remember to keep your plan simple; we are only dealing with a raccoon. Never underestimate your prey.”

-“Use your environment. On Earth, raccoons are considered disgusting and unwelcome animals. This disgust is only magnified when it is a freakish, genetically enhanced, alien raccoon, so follow the shrieks of commoners. If this does not work, try searching near garbage cans.”

-“Be prepared for anything. Remember that the hunter is the true weapon, and an honorable one bests his prey with only the bear minimum. If they are without a weapon, throw yours aside. However, in the case of an intelligent, weapons crazed vermin – always have a bigger gun.”

-“Always be willing to go further than your prey. If they steal an assault vehicle, steal a tank. If they take cover inside a secure facility, bring down the building. Persistence is key. A master hunter is not deterred by even the most daunting circumstances.”

-“Maintain the element of surprise and cut off all escape routes. Raccoons are quick and chasing them down is both annoying and tiring. Anticipate and remove all possible means of escape before launching your well devised sneak attack.”

And that’s it! You’re now prepared to head out on your first alien raccoon hunt and with Rocket stranded in New York now marks the opportune time to make your move. Though it may be well advised to wait and see how Kraven does chasing him across the city before you launch your full-scale attack. After all Rocket isn’t your ordinary prey.

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Rocket Raccoon (2016) #3

The hunt begins in ROCKET RACCOON #3 by Matthew Rosenberg and Jorge Coelho, coming February 22!

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Matthew Rosenberg gives Wilson Fisk’s opinions on his allies and enemies!

Long has Wilson Fisk stood above Manhattan and observed the heroes, the villains, the petty criminals, and the everyday citizens. Long has he watched and considered and passed judgment on them all.

Now, thanks to his representative, KINGPIN writer Matthew Rosenberg, we can learn the Kingpin of Crime’s opinions about some of the most famous individuals of the Marvel Universe who have ever been a thorn in his side in advance of the first issue of his ongoing series coming February 8.

Daredevil
“Daredevil is Wilson Fisk’s most persistent nuisance,” Rosenberg confirms. “He is that unreachable itch. On his more generous days Fisk might admit that Daredevil is almost a worthy adversary, but more often than not he is just another of the many obstacles that truly great men must overcome. Someday Wilson Fisk will kill Daredevil and that is the last time he will ever think of the Man Without Fear.”

Punisher
“A true sociopath, but at least he is a man with conviction,” points out the writer. “History is written by people who understand that some things are more important than the rule of law. The person willing to do whatever needs to get done will usually win out. It is reasons not rules which make us stronger. Unfortunately for Frank, his lack of respect for the rule of law is coupled with a true lack of reason. There are a lot of things that should drive a person, revenge is one of the [pettier].”

Spider-Man
“A ridiculous clown,” dismisses Rosenberg. “Next question.”

Echo
“Tragic,” the writer states. “Echo was a beautiful and gifted girl, as close to family as you can get. What happened to her father was tragic and Fisk did everything he could to prepare Echo for the real world. But sometimes people just go astray. Becoming a vigilante is not what anyone wants to see happen to the people they care about.”

The Hand
“Fisk has a lot of respect for the Hand,” reveals Rosenberg. “It would be dangerous to not. Their discipline, their traditions, their skills are all beyond admirable. Obviously the world would be better off with a lot fewer ninja in it, but it is foolish to think the Hand will be going anywhere any time soon. And when an adversary is so steeped in tradition and ritual, there is something comforting in that. They are reliable.”KINGP2017001-cover

HYDRA
“Wilson Fisk has no time for terror or political ideologues,” the writer argues. “They are men who would rather see the world burn than see it not reflect their own beliefs. They are naive. But, they are also a very smart organization run by men of means. While it can’t be denied that they are wasting everyone’s time with their silly wars, they are also useful people to know. They have power, influence, and money, and that should always be respected. They just lack vision. And that can be exploited. Carefully.”

Richard Fisk
“There is something inherently tragic about the relationship between a father and a son,” posits Rosenberg. “The father wants a better life for his son, and the son knows one day he will replace his father in the world. Wilson Fisk would have gladly given everything for his son, if only his son hadn’t tried to take it from him. Richard is a character ripped from Greek tragedy, he is a cautionary tale of why one shouldn’t love too much. And Richard Fisk isn’t half the man his father is.”

Black Cat
“Felicia used to be a charming and eccentric nuisance,” Rosenberg recalls. “But too much time with Spider-Man, too much time not understanding that she was a punchline, has given her delusions of grandeur. She is a bit player who’d love to see herself thrust into the spotlight. She is far more likely to wind up in a grave if she continues to play in a world she wasn’t meant for.”

Elektra
“Elektra is another case of how we want the world for our children and they always let us down,” asserts the writer. “She is talented and smart, ruthless and meticulous. But she lets matters of the heart come into play in a world that has no room for emotions. She could be one of the greats. She could be someone to truly fear in this world. Instead she’s a pincushion.”

Turk
“A good employee is a reliable one,” Rosenberg says. “Turk is a bit of a fool, a hopeless opportunist, and often a desperate man. But in that, there is reliability. Fisk can trust Turk to look out for himself above all others, and because of that he can be used to great effect. Turk’s sense of self-preservation is astounding; he is the cockroach of the New York underworld.”

Matthew Rosenberg continues to open up Wilson Fisk’s world in KINGPIN #1, coming February 8!

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Writer Matthew Rosenberg pulls back the curtain on the new team debuting next year!

Inhumans Vs. X-Men promises to completely reimagine how the two groups get along in the world. Before the event even gets properly underway, however, we’ve gotten a bit of a look at things to come when IvX finishes up.

Though still being kept under tight wraps, SECRET WARRIORS debuts in May 2017 from writer Matthew Rosenberg and artist Javier Garron. Ms. Marvel, Karnak, Moon Girl, Devil Dinosaur, Quake, and more will band together after the Royal Family leaves Earth behind, but for what purpose?

We conferred with Rosenberg about putting this team together, working with Garron, and maybe a few other secrets about his warriors.

Marvel.com: What would you say the mission statement of SECRET WARRIORS is?

Matthew Rosenberg: When we first meet them their mission statement is to survive. They come together at a crazy time and they are thrust together by necessity. There is a lot going on and they won’t always agree with what they should be doing or how to get it done. They are going to be taking up a fight that a lot of other heroes won’t or can’t. So surviving is job one, and figuring out how they can be most effective is job number #2.

Marvel.com: What kinds of threats will the team be facing in their early adventures?

Matthew Rosenberg: Death. That will be a pretty big one. Seriously though, when they start out there is a lot stacked against them. The missions they undertake wouldn’t be easy under normal circumstances, but a lot of people are going to be out hunting for them. And that is a big part of the book. Whether they can operate better striking from the shadows or leading on the front lines.

As for specific threats? There will be some familiar faces and some familiar threats, but handled in a pretty new way. I can’t really say much more than that right now.

Marvel.com: Does the lack of a Royal Family nearby change what it means to be an Inhuman in the post-IvX word?

Matthew Rosenberg: Oh totally. The Inhuman nation, their very identity, is in flux. They are a strong and proud people, but they have always had strong leadership. And now that is gone. Their departure will echo throughout the Marvel Universe in general and SECRET WARRIORS in specific for a long time to come. How our team, who are young and didn’t necessarily identify as Inhuman or grow up looking to the Royal Family for guidance, reacts as opposed to how other Inhumans deal with the change will be something we keep coming back to.

Marvel.com: What was the process like for nailing down this line-up of Ms. Marvel, Moon Girl, Quake, Inferno, Karnak, and a few surprises?

Matthew Rosenberg: The process was pretty straightforward. Wil Moss, my editor, and I talked about using a bunch of the younger Inhumans in the book. He suggested some, I suggested some, and I think we stopped suggesting when we hit a point where we were really happy with the dynamic that all these characters would create together. As for individual characters, it was important that each one really adds something to the group and the story.

I have a very soft spot for Quake because my first full issue for Marvel was a Quake one shot I wrote last year. I love SECRET WAR; Brian Bendis did an amazing job of making her this very mysterious and fun force of nature. And obviously she is an important character to the original SECRET WARRIORS series, and Jonathan Hickman really further [fleshed] her character out. She is a spy, a super hero, and an Inhuman. She really is seeing sides of things that no one else will.

MS. MARVEL is hands down one of my favorite comics of the last few years simply because she is one of the best characters. I get the same feeling from her I got when I first encountered Peter Parker. G. Willow Wilson and [the book’s artists] do an amazing job of making this normal girl seem truly extraordinary and this extraordinary hero seem very relatable. It’s that balance that I love. I think a lot of people will see themselves in Ms. Marvel in this book.

MOON GIRL AND DEVIL DINOSAUR is such a great book and she is so fun. Brandon Montclare and Amy Reeder are good friends of mine, so I’ve been really rooting for that book since it was first announced, and they killed it. Having Moon Girl on the team has been a fun challenge because she isn’t as much of a traditional super hero as some of the other cast. Obviously we don’t want to change who Moon Girl is or what she does, so finding the right role for her has been a really fun challenge. She is really fun and sort of serves as the brains of the team.

And we knew we wanted someone from Charles Soule, Joe [Madureira], Ryan Stegman and company’s INHUMAN series. Inferno was the perfect choice because he is a good middle ground between Quake and Ms. Marvel. He is just an average guy with this power thrust onto him and he is still trying to find his way. He wants to do good, but he isn’t sure he wants to be out there calling himself a hero. He will have to figure out who he is and he has to do it quickly.

And Karnak’s role will be a bit of a mystery. Because he’s Karnak.

Marvel.com: We hear there will also be non-Inhumans on the team. What brings them into the fold of the Secret Warriors?

Matthew Rosenberg: Yeah, we have some team members who are still under wraps. As for what brings them on board, they aren’t just fighting Inhuman problems. In the same way that the X-Men don’t only deal with mutant issues, the Secret Warriors are a group of people forced to work together because they have a chance to do something about some problems no one else is dealing with. They will take any help they can get.

Secret Warriors by David Nakayama

Secret Warriors by David Nakayama

Marvel.com: What’s the dynamic like with this group? Many of them have been on teams before, but not together.

Matthew Rosenberg: Bad? They are all pretty young, smart and headstrong, and they kind of all came together my happenstance. The way Quake approaches a problem isn’t really going to be the way Ms. Marvel does, and without a clear leader—or clear to them—tensions will grow and grow. But they are all good at what they do and their mission is too important to let personal squabbles get in the way.

Marvel.com: You’ve got a pretty classic teen hero team set-up here. What were some of the previous Marvel teen hero books that influenced you?

Matthew Rosenberg: Wow. Okay. I love so many of the Marvel teen hero books. Obviously X-Men is a huge influence for me, the reason I write comics even. I love the X-Men in all their different permutations, but they resonate with me the most when they are still kids who are trying to figure out their place in the world. The original UNCANNY X-MEN, NEW MUTANTS, YOUNG X-MEN, WOLVERINE & THE X-MEN, ALL-NEW X-MEN. All of those books.

RUNAWAYS was a complete game changer for me. It introduced new characters in the Marvel Universe and did a great job of giving them their own space to play and grow, while still making them feel really vital and relevant.

Kieron [Gillen] and Jamie [McKelvie’s] YOUNG AVENGERS was a great book. It really felt like they were doing their own thing, but it made sense. It’s fun, stylish, cool, and super weird. It has this great cast and it’s full of heart. That is a pretty big influence on me.

Both versions of Ultimate Spider-Man are amazing. I’ve said this before, but I honestly think that the Peter Parker run on ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN may be the greatest super hero arc of all time. By the end of it you know Peter as well as you have ever known any character from fiction, as well as you know some of your friends. Better even, probably.

And I would be doing the book a huge disservice if I didn’t say the original SECRET WARRIORS. I know it’s not what people will think of as a “teen book,” but they are all young and in way over their heads. The teen angle is subtle, but so key to why the book works so well. It never panders, never talks down or patronizes, but it fully explores what it’s like to be exceptional kids in a world that both desperately needs you and will wholly take advantage of you. It’s a pretty dark take on the teen book, but I would definitely put it up there with the rest.

Marvel.com: How has it been working with Javier so far?

Matthew Rosenberg: It’s been amazing. His work is so fun and exciting, without ever sacrificing character. I think he can do those over the top moments we need just as well as he can do the subtle, character-driven stuff. I am incredibly lucky to get to work on this series. It pushes me to give him bigger action set pieces, better character moments, just make this really dynamic book. But in the end I feel like mostly my job here will be to give him cool stuff to draw and then get the hell out of his way.

Want more SECRET WARRIORS details? You’ll just have to keep an eye on Marvel.com and our social channels as they become fit for public consumption!

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